Carmen King and Nick Hidalgo speaking on Make the Case podcast

MAKE the CASE: Safety Through Mass Surveillance is an Illusion

Oct 12, 2026

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What can go wrong when a private company builds a nationwide mass surveillance network that records billions of license plate scans per month? Nick Hidalgo, senior staff attorney at the ACLU of Northern California, examines claims that Flock cameras fight crime—and the consequences of tracking millions of people as they go about their daily lives.

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The new podcast from the ACLU of Northern California delves into some of the most consequential questions of our time, from immigration to surveillance to voting rights. Host Carmen King goes behind the headlines to help listeners understand what’s at stake, why the ACLU gets involved, and whose rights will be most impacted.